https://heroes.thelazy.net//api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Dzane.richterHeroes 3 wiki - User contributions [en]2026-05-12T10:45:23ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.43.0https://heroes.thelazy.net//index.php?title=Talk:Cloak_of_the_Undead_King&diff=30455Talk:Cloak of the Undead King2018-02-23T08:15:23Z<p>Dzane.richter: </p>
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<div>I think this artifact is almost overpowered because it is easy to amass swarms of liches on large maps. I have played games where I have gotten over 500 Liches due to luck in finding the artifacts and Expert Necromancy before level 5. At any rate it increases the sheer power of Necropolis even more. <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: BlackHeart | BlackHeart ]] ([[User talk: BlackHeart |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ BlackHeart |contribs]]) 11:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Agreed. But good luck doing Sandro's campaign without it. <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: Sandmanahoy | Sandmanahoy ]] ([[User talk: Sandmanahoy |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ Sandmanahoy |contribs]]) 21:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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::Hells yeah, Sandro is a bitch to do without my lucky liches! <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 80.202.178.251 | 80.202.178.251 ]] ([[User talk: 80.202.178.251 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 80.202.178.251 |contribs]]) 01:17, 24 September 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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==Question 1==<br />
Does anyone know if the Cloak of the Undead King affects transformations done through the skeletal transformer? <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 174.3.246.144 | 174.3.246.144 ]] ([[User talk: 174.3.246.144 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 174.3.246.144 |contribs]]) 21:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:No. It does not. The transformer only makes skeletons in a 1:1 ratio. <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 78.90.168.12 | 78.90.168.12 ]] ([[User talk: 78.90.168.12 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 78.90.168.12 |contribs]]) 21:55, 12 May 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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== Addidion ==<br />
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Does it mean that this Cloak adds +60% to [[Necromancy]] in total with item Effects? --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 21:06, 5 March 2014 (CET)<br />
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== Question 2 ==<br />
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Within ordinary necromancy skill, normal skeletons are raised. But if there is no slot left and at least one slot of skeleton warriors, I force the game to give me skeleton warrioirs. However, only in count of 2/3 of normal skeletons.<br />
Does this rule work also in case of liches/power liches? It is better to have 15 liches instead of 10 power liches.<br />
An additional question to calculation, the entire case:<br />
expert necromancy: 30<br />
Isra on level 10: 30*0,05*10 = 15<br />
1x Necromancy Amplifier: 10<br />
Amulet of the Undertaker: 5<br />
Vampire's Cowl: 10<br />
Dead Man's Boots: 15<br />
Cloak of the Undead King: it is said 30%, but are the source artifacts counted in it, or do we have additional +30%?<br />
Or is the only effect, that this 30% may be also from allied creatures?<br />
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So, this Isra will raise 30% of allied + (85% or 100%) of enemy units into liches? or x (1 or 2/3) into power liches?</div>Dzane.richterhttps://heroes.thelazy.net//index.php?title=Talk:Cloak_of_the_Undead_King&diff=30453Talk:Cloak of the Undead King2018-02-22T12:37:47Z<p>Dzane.richter: </p>
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<div>I think this artifact is almost overpowered because it is easy to amass swarms of liches on large maps. I have played games where I have gotten over 500 Liches due to luck in finding the artifacts and Expert Necromancy before level 5. At any rate it increases the sheer power of Necropolis even more. <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: BlackHeart | BlackHeart ]] ([[User talk: BlackHeart |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ BlackHeart |contribs]]) 11:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Agreed. But good luck doing Sandro's campaign without it. <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: Sandmanahoy | Sandmanahoy ]] ([[User talk: Sandmanahoy |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ Sandmanahoy |contribs]]) 21:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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::Hells yeah, Sandro is a bitch to do without my lucky liches! <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 80.202.178.251 | 80.202.178.251 ]] ([[User talk: 80.202.178.251 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 80.202.178.251 |contribs]]) 01:17, 24 September 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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==Question 1==<br />
Does anyone know if the Cloak of the Undead King affects transformations done through the skeletal transformer? <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 174.3.246.144 | 174.3.246.144 ]] ([[User talk: 174.3.246.144 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 174.3.246.144 |contribs]]) 21:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:No. It does not. The transformer only makes skeletons in a 1:1 ratio. <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 78.90.168.12 | 78.90.168.12 ]] ([[User talk: 78.90.168.12 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 78.90.168.12 |contribs]]) 21:55, 12 May 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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== Addidion ==<br />
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Does it mean that this Cloak adds +60% to [[Necromancy]] in total with item Effects? --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 21:06, 5 March 2014 (CET)<br />
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Within ordinary necromancy skill, normal skeletons are raised. But if there is no slot left and at least one slot of skeleton warriors, I force the game to give me skeleton warrioirs. However, only in count of 2/3 of normal skeletons.<br />
Does this rule work also in case of liches/power liches? It is better to have 15 liches instead of 10 power liches.<br />
An additional question to calculation, the entire case:<br />
expert necromancy: 30<br />
Isra on level 10: 30*0,05*10 = 15<br />
1x Necromancy Amplifier: 10<br />
Amulet of the Undertaker: 5<br />
Vampire's Cowl: 10<br />
Dead Man's Boots: 15<br />
Cloak of the Undead King: it is said 30%, but are the source artifacts counted in it, or do we have additional +30%?<br />
Or is the only effect, that this 30% may be also from allied creatures?<br />
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So, this Isra will raise 30% of allied + (85% or 100%) of enemy units into liches? or x (1 or 2/3) into power liches?</div>Dzane.richter