Editing Talk:Mage and Arch Mage

== Discussion ==
It is not essential to upgrade magi early in the game. However, the upgraded Mage Tower only cost 5 {{W}} and 2000 {{G}}. Considering that it gives five more hit points, speed seven and no obstacle penalty, it is more than affordable. The main downside of the magi is, that [[Mage Tower]] has very steep cost. 

=== DD / TP ===
I noticed that  the reduction of 2 points does not apply to dimension door and town portal spells.

:My guess would be that it only applies to combat spells [[User:Ibraesil|Ibraesil]] ([[User talk:Ibraesil|talk]]) 14:28, 26 October 2015 (CET)

:I believe this is the reaason. See [[Spell#Adventure spells|adventure spell]]. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] ([[User talk:Kapteeni Ruoska|talk]]) 14:30, 26 October 2015 (CET)

=== Does un-upgraded Magi really have the no Obstacle Penalty? ===
What title says, are there any proof for that or is it false information?

:Interesting, seems a mistake. -[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] ([[User talk:Kapteeni Ruoska|talk]]) 13:19, 31 July 2017 (CEST)

::I did a (very) quick test and it seems as though Magi and Arch Magi both have no obstacle penalty. [[User:Ibraesil|Ibraesil]] ([[User talk:Ibraesil|talk]]) 04:26, 9 August 2017 (CEST)

:::I have a vague recollection that I would have done the same test. However, the game itself, manual and creature.txt states otherwise. Though they are often wrong. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] ([[User talk:Kapteeni Ruoska|talk]]) 16:57, 9 August 2017 (CEST)
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+== Discussion ==
+It is not essential to upgrade magi early in the game. However, the upgraded Mage Tower only cost 5 {{W}} and 2000 {{G}}. Considering that it gives five more hit points, speed seven and no obstacle penalty, it is more than affordable. The main downside of the magi is, that [[Mage Tower]] has very steep cost.
 === DD / TP ===
 I noticed that  the reduction of 2 points does not apply to dimension door and town portal spells.
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 :::I have a vague recollection that I would have done the same test. However, the game itself, manual and creature.txt states otherwise. Though they are often wrong. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] ([[User talk:Kapteeni Ruoska|talk]]) 16:57, 9 August 2017 (CEST)
-=== Strat section ===
-Finally updated! Great job, Fafner. --[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 15:06, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
-:So you have been just waiting for me to finish doing a full Tower collection? Do I get a cake or something? :P -[[User:Fafner|Fafner]] ([[User talk:Fafner|talk]]) 16:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
-::I didn't do nothing either lol. And now I just noticed you already finished Tower after you made this comment (I forgot you did the gargs and golems).--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 17:11, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
-:::Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything about your efforts. I meant that I've edited lots of spells & most Tower units & nothing happened, but when I've put a wall of knowledge (my reference jokes are terrible, I know) on Mage & Archmage, boom, I get applauded. Kinda surprising, as they're about most straightforward Tower troops, not really impressive or gimmicky, and all their abilities are passive, so anyone could just eyeball their stats and figure out how to use them. Anyway next in line is probably Castle, broken & overpowered units abound... -[[User:Fafner|Fafner]] ([[User talk:Fafner|talk]]) 00:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
-::::No issues heh. Good luck with Castle!--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 00:43, 28 January 2021 (UTC)