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In the endgame, Diplomacy is losing its power, as most wandering monsters are already eliminated from the map, and it's unlikely that someone who could really help your army which is already very big will join (i.e. there is a low opportunity to get 10 [[Angel and Archangel|Archangels]] or someone like this) - strong wanderers usually don't join, as they are in map's keypoints and guard something important. Often in tournament and multiplayer games, Diplomacy skill is regarded as an overpowered secondary skill and is frequently banned from competitive play. | In the endgame, Diplomacy is losing its power, as most wandering monsters are already eliminated from the map, and it's unlikely that someone who could really help your army which is already very big will join (i.e. there is a low opportunity to get 10 [[Angel and Archangel|Archangels]] or someone like this) - strong wanderers usually don't join, as they are in map's keypoints and guard something important. Often in tournament and multiplayer games, Diplomacy skill is regarded as an overpowered secondary skill and is frequently banned from competitive play. | ||
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* [http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID{{=}}28341 Diplomacy internals] - thread on [http://heroescommunity.com HeroesCommunity] | * [http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID{{=}}28341 Diplomacy internals] - thread on [http://heroescommunity.com HeroesCommunity] | ||
* [https://www.scribd.com/doc/215189069/Heroes-of-might-and-magic-III-strategy-guide Tribute to strategists: Heroes of Might and Magic III Manual] by Rainalkar, pp. 22-25. | * [https://www.scribd.com/doc/215189069/Heroes-of-might-and-magic-III-strategy-guide Tribute to strategists: Heroes of Might and Magic III Manual] by Rainalkar, pp. 22-25. | ||
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Revision as of 07:59, 2 November 2024
Diplomacy is a secondary skill, that increases the chance wandering creatures will offer to join the hero's army and lowers the cost of surrendering to another hero. Additionally, Diplomacy enables hero to learn primary skills from Library of Enlightenment earlier than experience level 10. With Basic Diplomacy the hero has to be at least on level 8, with Advanced Diplomacy on level 6 and with Expert Diplomacy on level 4 to receive +2 to all primary skills from Library of Enlightenment.
Heroes with Basic Diplomacy as a starting skill:
Heroes with Diplomacy as a specialty and a starting skill:
Basis of joining
Whether or not the wandering creatures will join you for "greater glory" or at price, depends not only on a hero's level of Diplomacy, but also on several other factors (e.g. Relative army strengths, whether the creature is already present in the army). For in-depth breakdown, see Join and also External Links below. A gross oversimplification of the mechanic is wandering creatures are 10% more likely to join per level of diplomacy that the hero has.
When playing at easy difficulty, heroes receive a diplomacy bonus even when they have not learned the skill. No Diplomacy acts as basic Diplomacy, basic Diplomacy acts as advanced Diplomacy, while advanced and expert diplomacy act as expert Diplomacy for the purpose of joining.
Horn of the Abyss
On all standard random map templates, monsters now only join for gold, and only half the group for the price of the entire group; these settings can be altered in the map and template editors. Monsters that appear on a special month can still join as normal.
Chance to get
Out of total 112 for The Shadow of Death, and of (112 + Interference chance) for Horn of the Abyss .
Banned skills change the probability.
Town | Class | Chance to learn |
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Knight | 4 |
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Cleric | 7 (highest) |
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Ranger | 4 |
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Druid | 4 |
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Alchemist | 3 |
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Wizard | 4 |
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Demoniac | 4 |
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Heretic | 3 |
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Death Knight | 2 |
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Necromancer | 4 |
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Overlord | 3 |
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Warlock | 4 |
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Barbarian | 1 (lowest) |
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Battle Mage | 3 |
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Beastmaster | 1 (lowest) |
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Witch | 2 |
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Planeswalker | 2 |
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Elementalist | 4 |
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Captain | 5 |
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Navigator | 2 |
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Mercenary | 7 (highest) |
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Artificer | 3 |
User Commentary
Tips
Recommended for: At least one hero, typically a support, on maps with wandering monsters that are not set to 'savage', but preferably to 'aggressive' (i.e., the default setting).
Although a main hero's attack and defense skill help in convincing wandering monsters to join, it typically works well to let a support hero learn this skill instead. This support hero can then borrow troops from your main hero to convince wandering monsters to join and return the troops immediately after. This saves your main hero a skill slot and potentially a lot of movement points.
External links
- Diplomacy internals - thread on HeroesCommunity
- Tribute to strategists: Heroes of Might and Magic III Manual by Rainalkar, pp. 22-25.